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Welcome to Webwise Live Chat - this is a moderated forum. Due to the large volume of questions, we will make every attempt to answer the range of concerns but may not get to everyone in the time allotted.
adminis: "You previously stated that the categories ("Channels") are policed to ensure they do not contain personal information, if no personal information can be captured, why do you need to do this policing?"
KentErtugrul: The vetting is not just about personal information, it is also to avoid allowing channels which relate to sensitive areas. For example, we do not carry adult advertising. As a result there are no "adult" channels. Therefore it is not possiblt to capture even fully anonymouse adult browing behavour and associate this agains the random number of the browser. The vetting process give us ultimate control over which product categories are noted since we cannot note anything other than predefined categories
phail: please can you explain why you feel the need to spy on everyone?
KentErtugrul: I understand the emotional reaction whcih you have but I would lke to point out the difference between what we are doing and what you describe.
1) The is a clear and absolute choice on the part of everyone participating. NOBODY is forced in
2) This represents a dramatic step forward in online privacy. Look in your browser right now. You have probably been cookied by over one hundred different sites, which have noted your presence, stored your IP address and possibly tied it into other information which you may have given up elsewhere. You never gave permission for this to happen. People are losing privacy today because there is no place which serves advertisers' purpose of maximising relevance whilst at the same time handing consumers a clear on off switch. And which does this without storing any browsing history. This is what this does and this is why Webwise in fact represents the best defense which consumers have AGAINST spying
Dean_Lee: I hear that if I take my laptop abroad, and use a Phorm ISP there, my channel info will be fetched across from the UK, so my ads stay targeted . That’s pretty cool. But which ISP gets to share the revenue, my UK one or my foreign one?
KentErtugrul: Revenue is attributed to whichever ISP is providing you with the connectin at the time. In due course, this provides users with the real possibility of cheap / free wireless internet connections wherever they may roam
narcosis: If you read RFC2965 you'll see there is no such thing as a TLD multi site cookie or a global style cookie. How does your cookie get read by different sites to display ad's or ignore the user (due to being opted out) ?
MBurgess: Yes, you are right. But this is a standard cookie that is only read by Phorm system, i.e. the webwise.net domain. Ads are displayed by the Phorm system only - Advertisers and the sites on which their ads are shown never see the cookie, and no user data is ever passed to them.
tinfoilhat: When connecting to a website that carries OIX ad space, does that site have any access to the UID cookie? Is the random user number visible to that site?
phail: Why should anyone trust you, you are well known for creating spyware / adware, I think the phrase "a leopard never changes their spots" is appropriate, what's to stop you changing the collection of our personal data to suit your own ends?
KentErtugrul: If you in fact look at the facts of the case rather than some of the things which have been written, you will see that we have one of the most "blue chip executive teams, boards, business partners and investors of any publicly traded internet company in the UK, that our history in the adware business is a matter of public record as the only adware company ever to be traded on the stock exchange. As far as changing the system is concerned, we have invited Ernst and Young to regularly inspect all of our claims. We are issuing an open
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The Petition now is the 18th most Popular on the 10 Downing Street ePetitions site. There are now a massive 7587 signatures.
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Petition Upadate |
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The Petition now is the 29th most Popular on the 10 Downing Street ePetitions site. There are now a massive 5721 signatures... an increase of over 1000 since yesterday.
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